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Subject: Using whole hops in boil
Author: TomH
Jun 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
Just wondering what the preference is with using whole hops in a boil. Do you put them in a bag or leave to freely circulate in the boil? I have never put them in a bag and just wanted to make sure the utilization is the same. I have never used a bag with my hops and always thought bagging the hops would make cleanup easier. thanks
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: beerbuster
Jun 29th, 2009
1:53 pm
Add 10% to your hop-bill when using a hopbag, that should do the trick.

Peter.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: jtrainer
Jun 29th, 2009
2:52 pm
I don't recalculate due to bags being used. I've never noticed any issues.

Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: WApilot
Jun 29th, 2009
2:59 pm
Might get slight increase in utilization(may not be noticable) but cleanup is a lot easier.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: CNYBrewing
Jun 29th, 2009
3:44 pm
i always use whole hops and never use a bag. They make a great filter when transfering out of the kettle.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: danno
Jun 29th, 2009
3:56 pm
Whole hops work great with false bottom kettles. No hop bag for me. Cleaning the hop bag is more hassle than cleaning the kettle and FB in my experience.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: rainbeer
Jun 29th, 2009
4:07 pm
I use the disposable hop socks. They are made from cloth and are recyclable. They work fine. I put pellets in them and whole hops as well.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: TomH
Jun 29th, 2009
4:14 pm
Thanks for all the advice.

I don't have a false bottom kettle (yet), new to all grain, so should I use a hop sock and would a regular grain bag work ok? I do find that when siphoning my brew out of the kettle into the fermenter, I tend to get few hop leaves stuck in the tubing. Not really a big deal but if it could be avoided I would like that.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: anotherdrummer
Jun 29th, 2009
5:44 pm
I've used whole hops in grain bags and hop pellets in a cheese-cloth sack. Both did great!
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: beerbuster
Jun 29th, 2009
7:18 pm
Hmm dunno how it is "over" on your side of the pond - Here in Denmark we use tube-gauze for hop bags, you can buy it at any pharmacy. Tie a knott, cut to lenght, fill in you hops and tie it of, boom presto, you got your hopbag. after the boil just fish `em out, and throw `em away. cheap as old chips

Peter.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: TomH
Jun 30th, 2009
10:01 am
Cheap is always good, I guess you don't need to sterilize because you are throwing into the boil for a while, correct?
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: CNYBrewing
Jun 30th, 2009
11:12 am
correct
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: Decanthas
Jun 30th, 2009
5:13 pm
False bottom kettles w/ whole hops help filter out hot break for a cleaner cast out. After yesterday's brew clogging the heat exchanger all night after using plugs, I'm putting a false bottom in my keggle.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: DConn
Jun 30th, 2009
5:17 pm
Plugs are just compressed whole hops. I don't understand why they should be any harder to filter.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: Decanthas
Jun 30th, 2009
5:18 pm
I didn't say they were. They break up into whole leaf in the kettle. Don't break my balls.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: DConn
Jun 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
Sorry, didn't mean for it to come off like that. I don't understand your statement concerning plugs.....are you saying that you don't use a FB and that's why you had problems? What have you been using to get the wort from the kettle?
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: CNYBrewing
Jun 30th, 2009
6:14 pm
Decanthas, you don't necissarly need a false bottom, why not try a bazooka or a bozooka T. I use the T and it works just fine but once you use pellets it will clog almost instantly.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: DConn
Jun 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
Yep, I use the T for whole hops and a curved side pickup tube for pellets.
Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: BlizzardBrewing
Jun 30th, 2009
6:42 pm
5 gallon paint strainer bags from any home improvement store (or hardware store), I use clamps to hold the bag up, so it is easy to add each new addition.

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Subject: Re: Using whole hops in boil
Author: mikep
Jun 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
I must be in the minority. I don't strain anything (whole or pellet) and I don't mess around with bags. Into the primary it goes!

I've tried hop bags a couple of times and I think it mutes the bitterness.

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