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Subject: Advice on strawberry beer Author: APaw |
May 9th, 2008 1:18 am |
Hi all!
It'll be peak strawberry season soon in PA, so I want to brew a Strawberry Wheat beer. I had a couple questions.
1) Any advice on when to add the berries? At the start in the primary with the fresh wort? In the secondary?
2) How long should I leave it on the fruit for maximum flavor extraction?
3) Any rough estimates on how many gravity points there are in a lb of strawberries?
Thanks!
APaw
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: radtek |
May 9th, 2008 2:05 am |
I advise you to stop this madness!
It'll have to be in secondary or added to the keg.
It'll have to be in secondary or added to the keg.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: APaw |
May 9th, 2008 2:19 am |
I shall never stop this madness! Too addicting.
Since I'm not kegging yet, secondary it shall be.
Since I'm not kegging yet, secondary it shall be.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Brad Petit |
May 9th, 2008 2:20 am |
APaw,
I brewed a strawberry beer for the little lady last year. I used 5 pounds of previously frozen berries, mashed up a little, in secondary. After I racked I decided to add one bottle of strawberry extract (for soda-making). I'm sad to report the strawberry flavor was disappointingly subdued. It was there, but it was just kinda meh. And this was on top of a light, low-gravity beer, so there wasn't much to compete with the berries.
I wish you luck in your endeavor.
I brewed a strawberry beer for the little lady last year. I used 5 pounds of previously frozen berries, mashed up a little, in secondary. After I racked I decided to add one bottle of strawberry extract (for soda-making). I'm sad to report the strawberry flavor was disappointingly subdued. It was there, but it was just kinda meh. And this was on top of a light, low-gravity beer, so there wasn't much to compete with the berries.
I wish you luck in your endeavor.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: gestyr |
May 9th, 2008 2:23 am |
I agree. add the berries to the secondary.
I am looking forward to making a strawberry lager, myself
I am looking forward to making a strawberry lager, myself
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: APaw |
May 9th, 2008 2:24 am |
Brad,
My current plan is to use 10 lbs of fresh peak season strawberries and give them a good pectinase treatment. About 2 hrs at the optimal temp for added pectinase (don't have the value handy). I'm hoping that will give some flavor. If not, I'm sure it can be donated to a summer picnic..
APaw
My current plan is to use 10 lbs of fresh peak season strawberries and give them a good pectinase treatment. About 2 hrs at the optimal temp for added pectinase (don't have the value handy). I'm hoping that will give some flavor. If not, I'm sure it can be donated to a summer picnic..
APaw
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Garrett Shaw |
May 9th, 2008 2:31 am |
A few points based on my experience. I've done a few fruits - closest would be a strawberry blonde:
1) Freeze your strawberries in gallon ziplock bags. Then thaw and rack the beer from the primary directly onto the fruit and liquid in the secondary. The freezing/thawing will work to break down the berries' cell walls.
2) A week in the secondary should impart a decent enough flavor. You can frequently sample after that to determine if the flavor is getting stronger or not.
3) The gravity from the fruit is pretty negligible by the time it hits the secondary. You'll notice a little rousing of the yeast and an additional ferment, but this will account for a few tenths of %ABV.
4) USE A TERTIARY FERMENTOR. Can't stress this point enough. It's imperative in getting the fruit and seeds and general crud out of the brew.
5) For subtle fruits 1lb/1gal is a good rule. Stronger fruits, like blueberries, could use less fruit.
1) Freeze your strawberries in gallon ziplock bags. Then thaw and rack the beer from the primary directly onto the fruit and liquid in the secondary. The freezing/thawing will work to break down the berries' cell walls.
2) A week in the secondary should impart a decent enough flavor. You can frequently sample after that to determine if the flavor is getting stronger or not.
3) The gravity from the fruit is pretty negligible by the time it hits the secondary. You'll notice a little rousing of the yeast and an additional ferment, but this will account for a few tenths of %ABV.
4) USE A TERTIARY FERMENTOR. Can't stress this point enough. It's imperative in getting the fruit and seeds and general crud out of the brew.
5) For subtle fruits 1lb/1gal is a good rule. Stronger fruits, like blueberries, could use less fruit.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: jeff williams |
May 9th, 2008 2:48 am |
instead of doing a tertiary ferment, could you throw the fruit in a large hop bag? or would that not allow enough interaction between the fruit and the wort?
(watching this thread closely as the wifes grandpa owns a strawberry farm...)
(watching this thread closely as the wifes grandpa owns a strawberry farm...)
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Garrett Shaw |
May 9th, 2008 2:54 am |
Probably would work. I would leave it in the wort a little longer than if it were out loose to utilize it better. One area of concern - 5lbs of strawberries actually expand quite a bit (and float) so bear that in mind if you plan on using a "berry sock".
I would still suggest using a tertiary, at least for a couple days, as there are other, less solid materials that are sure to get thru a sock that would settle out with a tertiary.
I would still suggest using a tertiary, at least for a couple days, as there are other, less solid materials that are sure to get thru a sock that would settle out with a tertiary.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: simpledad |
May 9th, 2008 4:37 am |
Also consider the size of your secondary vessel - if you're used to fillling your 5gal carboy close to the neck, adding 5 lbs of strawberries would cause some spillage.
I've never made a strawberry beer, but I remember reading an account of a strawberry beer maker who preferred his strawberry beers when made with a yeast that didn't attenuate to a high degree. His feeling was that the additional sweetness enhanced the 'strawberryness'. I remember thinking after I read this article and several others that good strawberry beers are quite tough. If I can find the link, I'll post it.
I've never made a strawberry beer, but I remember reading an account of a strawberry beer maker who preferred his strawberry beers when made with a yeast that didn't attenuate to a high degree. His feeling was that the additional sweetness enhanced the 'strawberryness'. I remember thinking after I read this article and several others that good strawberry beers are quite tough. If I can find the link, I'll post it.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: radtek |
May 9th, 2008 5:46 am |
Someone last year did a strawberry beer. Raved about it. I think the low attenuation aspect is spot on. Mash around 156F or a little higher. I think to pull it off it has to be about the strawberries but you'll need sweetness to balance it out.
Hey, with a good hefe yeast you could end up with a strawberry-banana beer.
Hey, with a good hefe yeast you could end up with a strawberry-banana beer.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: bryguy |
May 9th, 2008 1:56 pm |
I would suggest adding the berries to the primary after fermentation had died down. Why add an extra transfer?
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Garrett Shaw |
May 9th, 2008 2:40 pm |
I like the extra transfer to clarify it up really nice. But if you're short on time or just want it done with, couldn't hurt to go that route.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: jmo |
May 9th, 2008 3:06 pm |
. . . as long as you don't want to try to harvest the yeast from primary. I wouldn't want to chance dumping a new batch onto that cake - unless it's another batch of strawberry wheat beer, I guess.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: APaw |
May 9th, 2008 5:09 pm |
I think the idea that some sweetness will aid in the strawberry flavor coming out is a good one.
I've been debating adding 5-10% honey malt to add some sweetness. See how that works. A faint honey taste won't be out of place either.
Anyone have any suggestions on a good low attenuating yeast strain to use?
I've been debating adding 5-10% honey malt to add some sweetness. See how that works. A faint honey taste won't be out of place either.
Anyone have any suggestions on a good low attenuating yeast strain to use?
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Dan R |
May 9th, 2008 5:17 pm |
Are you going to call it She Wolf?
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: bryguy |
May 9th, 2008 5:19 pm |
Rather then a low attenuating yeast just mash high as Radtek suggest.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: simpledad |
May 10th, 2008 3:48 am |
Maybe try Denny's yeast?
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: radtek |
May 10th, 2008 6:31 am |
Or pacman.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Jim DeShields |
May 10th, 2008 9:37 pm |
Quote
"Maybe try Denny's yeast? "
Oh yeah it's great for fruit beers
"Maybe try Denny's yeast? "
Oh yeah it's great for fruit beers
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: Thom Pourner |
May 11th, 2008 1:15 am |
I am about to be making a strawberry blondish beer, and I'm hearing that puree is the way to go, been told 1 can ( 3lbs) gave a great flavor, when added to the secondary. So I think this is the approch I will take, otherwise I was looking at about 8-12lbs strawberries.
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Subject: Re: Advice on strawberry beer Author: APaw |
May 11th, 2008 1:20 am |
Thom,
Do you know if the canned puree is concentrated puree? My current plan was to home puree 10 lbs of strawberries in a food mill. I wonder if that will be too much... Well, if it is I'm sure SWMBO will enjoy it greatly.
Aaron
Do you know if the canned puree is concentrated puree? My current plan was to home puree 10 lbs of strawberries in a food mill. I wonder if that will be too much... Well, if it is I'm sure SWMBO will enjoy it greatly.
Aaron
