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Subject: Fantome in the Machine Author: Coctyle |
Mar 27th, 2008 9:14 pm |
OK, if I haven't been excommunicated due to the homelessness thead, here is an interesting story...
A friend of mine bought a bottle of Fantome saisson for the first time, which we enjoyed last night. I also had a Wit that my friend brewed and a glass of wine. My friend probably had about the same. I can't speak for my friend, but I never really felt intoxicated throughout the night, and don't think either of us overindulged, as least not any more than normal. We also had dinner together. My friend's wife ate the same food as us and drank the wine, but did not have the saisson or wit.
Both me and my friend woke up in our seperate homes at almost the exact same time (~4:30 am) and were violently ill. My friend's wife had no such symptoms. We ate the same food and drank the same wine; the only difference is the Fantome and the wit.
The wit has been on tap for a few days and has been drank by all three of the people in this story on past occasions. Hence it seems unlikely to be the culprit. Perhaps it was something in the food, and for some reason it just didn't bother my friend's wife. The only other explanation I can think of, and the one that seems most logical in some ways, is that the Fantome somehow made us sick. But the brewer in me doesn't want to believe that. The bottle was sealed with a crown cap and a cork, and the seal seemed fine.
So what do you think? Coincidence? Bad roast beef that only attacks the male of the species? Or could it possibly have been the beer?
By the way, it tasted great, but being my first saisson, I didn't know what it should taste like. There was a very distinct apple taste; reminded me of an apple wine that I had once. My friend thought he tasted diacytal, but I have never been good at detecting that. The bottle was bought at a homebrew store that stocks some exotic beers. It is certainly possible that it was in there for a long time or expodsed to some non-ideal conditions in transport or storage.
A friend of mine bought a bottle of Fantome saisson for the first time, which we enjoyed last night. I also had a Wit that my friend brewed and a glass of wine. My friend probably had about the same. I can't speak for my friend, but I never really felt intoxicated throughout the night, and don't think either of us overindulged, as least not any more than normal. We also had dinner together. My friend's wife ate the same food as us and drank the wine, but did not have the saisson or wit.
Both me and my friend woke up in our seperate homes at almost the exact same time (~4:30 am) and were violently ill. My friend's wife had no such symptoms. We ate the same food and drank the same wine; the only difference is the Fantome and the wit.
The wit has been on tap for a few days and has been drank by all three of the people in this story on past occasions. Hence it seems unlikely to be the culprit. Perhaps it was something in the food, and for some reason it just didn't bother my friend's wife. The only other explanation I can think of, and the one that seems most logical in some ways, is that the Fantome somehow made us sick. But the brewer in me doesn't want to believe that. The bottle was sealed with a crown cap and a cork, and the seal seemed fine.
So what do you think? Coincidence? Bad roast beef that only attacks the male of the species? Or could it possibly have been the beer?
By the way, it tasted great, but being my first saisson, I didn't know what it should taste like. There was a very distinct apple taste; reminded me of an apple wine that I had once. My friend thought he tasted diacytal, but I have never been good at detecting that. The bottle was bought at a homebrew store that stocks some exotic beers. It is certainly possible that it was in there for a long time or expodsed to some non-ideal conditions in transport or storage.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: radtek |
Mar 27th, 2008 9:17 pm |
Sounds like food poisoning. Happens at home too. Sometimes not everyone's affected.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: Angler |
Mar 27th, 2008 9:21 pm |
I'm going with the food as well. I have some unidentifiable stomach issues and I get food poisoning a few times a year from food that others eat and are unaffected by. I got whacked thrice last year, once right at the start of a fishing trip with family.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: Brewboy |
Mar 27th, 2008 9:42 pm |
"OK, if I haven't been excommunicated due to the homelessness thead, here is an interesting story..."
Why would you be? You're entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. Just kidding.
Why would you be? You're entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. Just kidding.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: Dan Berry |
Mar 28th, 2008 2:56 am |
I agree with the consensus that it was the food.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: Bob G |
Mar 28th, 2008 3:03 am |
It was the food. Maybe part of the roast was spoiled and the other part was ok. There is nothing in beer that can cause illness besides the effects of alcohol damage due to overindulgence which, in your case sounds like it wasn't.
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Subject: Re: Fantome in the Machine Author: Coctyle |
Mar 28th, 2008 3:01 pm |
I tend to agree with the solid food as the cause, with one possible exception. Food poisening is not always caused by bacteria. I think technically it has a different name, like food contamination, but cleaning chemicals or things like that in food products do sometimes make people sick. Bacterial food poisening, in my fortunately limited personal experience, causes more severe and prolonged sickness. In this case, both my friend and I were fine after the single bought of toilet worship.
So I don't know. There is no way now to really find out. I suspect my friend may have thrown out the remainder of the meat just in case.
So I don't know. There is no way now to really find out. I suspect my friend may have thrown out the remainder of the meat just in case.
